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Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Amazing story from India by Hurin @ 34 minutes 31 seconds ago

BTW, Bob, I hope all is well and continues to be so. I know you don't pray (and that I have hardly earned your good favor), but wish me luck. I've been through a rough year, and it's about to get worse (and better, my second son will be born in about
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Re: What is Science? (The Skeptics Point of View) by Meunier @ 34 minutes 56 seconds ago

To jg167, Yes, the parts of science that have resulted in technology can be said to be unlike religious faith, but other parts of science, such as evolutionary theory, the historical sciences or some parts of the social sciences have not yet "
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Amazing story from India by Hurin @ 42 minutes 13 seconds ago

Bob, I'm assuming you would like me to answer your questions before I leave. So, you can still have the last word, but I thought it may be appropriate in light of your response to clarify before doing so. Quote: Perhaps you see the problem that s
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Re: What is Science? (The Skeptics Point of View) by jg167 @ 45 minutes 13 seconds ago

I'm putting your last point first, as I think it needs more emphasis.Originally Posted By: MeunierBut I agree that something is left that singles out science: its technological applications. Ordinary people may understand nothing of Einstein, but the
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Amazing story from India by jg167 @ Today at 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By: BobSeidenstickerjg: Quote:Existence of a being is not what we are after but the scientific conclusion that its God. Yes. Quote:What test will distinguish this God from an arbitrarily advanced ET? I was more focused on the ex
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Amazing story from India by BobSeidensticker @ Today at 07:57 PM

Hurin: Quote:If angels didn’t exist, they would be neither natural nor supernatural, they would be nothing. Agreed! Now tell me: are angels natural or supernatural or nothing? Perhaps you see the problem that stops me: we can’t put them into a
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Amazing story from India by BobSeidensticker @ Today at 07:48 PM

jg: Quote:Existence of a being is not what we are after but the scientific conclusion that its God. Yes. Quote:What test will distinguish this God from an arbitrarily advanced ET? I was more focused on the existence question. But whether this du
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Re: What is Science? (The Skeptics Point of View) by Meunier @ Today at 07:45 PM

To jg167, From the laymen's standpoint, much of science is beyond their reach and is accepted on faith. Of course, the scientists know better and if we are gifted and persistent enough to be trained as a scientist, faith will be much less needed (e
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Questions for Atheists by BobSeidensticker @ Today at 07:45 PM

Lao Tzu: Quote:How? I mean, I'm wondering how you found it. It was mentioned in a podcast, if I remember correctly. Quote:They quit. Their entire subforum was deleted. Not just "disappeared" into the back room, but totally gone. Ouch!
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Jump to new posts Re: "Back to God" Rally by jg167 @ Today at 06:18 PM

Yankee42: since you where there, could you answer this for me? Originally Posted By: jg167The theme [and title] of this event in DC was "restoring honor". Ok, so far no one has explained what honor is in need of being restored, what aspect
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Jump to new posts Re: "Back to God" Rally by Yankee42 @ Today at 05:52 PM

Quote: Right out of the gate you accuse me of being disingenuous. I think the reality is that what you would really appreciate is if I was more in alignment with your personal opinion about Glenn Beck. Unfortunately I can’t accommodate that without b
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Re: The fifth force by jg167 @ Today at 03:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Ralphtjg, I think you've done well in correcting Avalon about natural selection. Originally Posted By: RalphtMoreover, if consciousness doesn't have attached to it a "fifth force", then an evolutionary process would
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Re: The fifth force by Ralpht @ Today at 02:40 PM

jg, I think you've done well in correcting Avalon about natural selection. Originally Posted By: RalphtMoreover, if consciousness doesn't have attached to it a "fifth force", then an evolutionary process would never be able to select for
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Amazing story from India by Hurin @ Today at 01:36 PM

Bob, Quote: What if angels didn’t exist? Would they be supernatural entities then? What about ghosts or pixies? Are they supernatural? If angels didn’t exist, they would be neither natural nor supernatural, they would be nothing. As for ghosts
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Re: The fifth force by jg167 @ Today at 11:19 AM

Avalon, I wouldn't say that evolution nor natural selection are random processes. Mutation is random, but natural selection (and thus evolution) does not randomly select, but selects things that work better in propagating genes than the competing th
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Amazing story from India by jg167 @ Today at 10:31 AM

Originally Posted By: BobSeidenstickerjg: Quote:I'm not so sure. I'm tempted to say that any action from outside the universe have to violate conservation of energy measured within our universe, but I'm not sure even in theory that our universe coul
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Jump to new posts Re: We are all creationists by Rethinker @ Today at 10:15 AM

Just because someone can't prove that the universe was uncreated, doesn't mean that it was created. You can't prove that it was created, does that mean that you are not a creationist? I don't see why the logic flows your way only. I am agnostic on t
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Jump to new posts Re: We are all creationists by Rethinker @ Today at 10:12 AM

I've read that its been calculated that gravity could cancel out the mechanical energy lost in each brane collission. But the math is so far beyond me that I can't even start to evaluate it. I will take the physicists word for it. I never said I was
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Questions for Atheists by lao_tzu @ Today at 08:35 AM

Originally Posted By: BobSeidenstickerI recently came across the site ILoveAtheists.com ... How? I mean, I'm wondering how you found it. Todd and Richard brought their foray into apologetics over to Theologyweb.com, where they were given status a
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Re: The fifth force by avalon @ Today at 06:00 AM

Hi Ralpht, Quote:Since we have conscious free will, our perception is that we are causing things to happen.You assume you have free will because you have the perception that you cause things to happen. Quote:natural aelection only works with attribu
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The fifth force by Ralpht @ Today at 04:55 AM

I've heard it said that four forces describe pretty well everything we know scientifically: - the strong nuclear force - the weak nuclear force - electromagnetism - gravity. But for materialists, our consciousness seems to be a huge problem. Since w
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Jump to new posts Re: We are all creationists by Ralpht @ Today at 04:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Rethinker Might be the lamest argument I've ever heard in my life, and I went to BIOLA! Wow! I'm thoroughly convinced by your meticulously thought out and presented rebuttal!!!!!! LOL If you imagine that branes and the ext
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Amazing story from India by BobSeidensticker @ Today at 01:58 AM

jg: Quote:I'm not so sure. I'm tempted to say that any action from outside the universe have to violate conservation of energy measured within our universe, but I'm not sure even in theory that our universe could be said to have an energy level, let
Bob the Atheist
Jump to new posts Re: Questions for Atheists by BobSeidensticker @ Today at 01:49 AM

Agreed. But don't blame the flippant atheists. It's a Christian site (no Poe's Law in effect here, to the best of my knowledge).
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Jump to new posts Re: Prayer Board by jg167 @ Today at 01:16 AM

As an atheist I can't offer prayer. I can't offer sage wisdom since what the heck do I know about what ever it is that is going badly for you (and have the feeling i wouldn't even if I did know what it was). Given the internet I can't even offer fo
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